What is the plan of this forum? in general, did we learn enough about cyber security, coexistence as well as discretion to not lose another website again?
More than anything I ask these things because the closure of ATF is something that generated a little panic more knowing that although there are other sites willing to accept this type of content either Loli or Shota or derivatives and other fantasies, but still that would be to lose one or the main site of all this fantasy... and I'm interested to know what people's plan is, as well as the communities (artists, musicians, modders, writers, AI generators, etc.) where to go and if we will manage to make a better and more secure/discreet ATF, a more specific central one or if a mass of people will really be lost in parallel places.
This also knowing that another site, RoriWalrus, suffered a problem with the domain something that leaves everyone a little disoriented
So... Now what?
Re: So... Now what?
Well, if creators were to join this forum and start posting that would be awesome and help having more people to join and be active.
My idea is more about avoiding the need to split up everything into each alternative and also save some less accepted part of ATF that would otherwise disappear.
There is no place that accepts as many categories as ATF did and with the fall of ATF people would have to go right and left to keep it. Roriwalrus, for example, the closest to ATF, doesn't take 3rd party games and mods, has stricter rules, and doesn't have a booru.
Other big shota places tend not to accept loli.
My database itself is secure as it's only accesible by the forum itself. password are turned into "unrecoverable" pasword hash (well with the creation of quantic computer it's proven to be quite weak but not everyone have a quantic computer at home) and no IP stored. leaving only the name and email readable if somehow someone ended up succesfuly geting the database.
As for making a more discreet place, it would be easyer by hosting it into the darkweb but not everyone seem ready to just install Tor to acces a forum.
My idea is more about avoiding the need to split up everything into each alternative and also save some less accepted part of ATF that would otherwise disappear.
There is no place that accepts as many categories as ATF did and with the fall of ATF people would have to go right and left to keep it. Roriwalrus, for example, the closest to ATF, doesn't take 3rd party games and mods, has stricter rules, and doesn't have a booru.
Other big shota places tend not to accept loli.
My database itself is secure as it's only accesible by the forum itself. password are turned into "unrecoverable" pasword hash (well with the creation of quantic computer it's proven to be quite weak but not everyone have a quantic computer at home) and no IP stored. leaving only the name and email readable if somehow someone ended up succesfuly geting the database.
As for making a more discreet place, it would be easyer by hosting it into the darkweb but not everyone seem ready to just install Tor to acces a forum.
Re: So... Now what?
Sorry to be the langues police. Should it not General Talk in stead of Geleral talk? I'm dyslectic by the way.
Midnight’s crown upon his brow,
Shadow-feathered, stern, and proud.
He rules where stars dare not blink,
Where moonlight trembles on the brink.
Shadow-feathered, stern, and proud.
He rules where stars dare not blink,
Where moonlight trembles on the brink.
-
squishypillow
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2026 9:04 pm
Re: So... Now what?
I am not a creator, but am part of a team making an archive of ATF. We are aiming for it to be as complete as possible; for now we are coordinating https://allthefallen.moe/forum/index.ph ... er.126995/76zzz29 wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2026 5:48 pm Well, if creators were to join this forum and start posting that would be awesome and help having more people to join and be active.
My idea is more about avoiding the need to split up everything into each alternative and also save some less accepted part of ATF that would otherwise disappear.
Where would the best place be to post it?
Re: So... Now what?
Fixed, I kinda did everything at night after my work so I may not have written everything right. It's better when it's written properly.mackraven wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 6:28 pm Sorry to be the langues police. Should it not General Talk in stead of Geleral talk? I'm dyslectic by the way.
Probably creating a new thread in General Talk dedicated to this?squishypillow wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 9:50 pm
I am not a creator, but am part of a team making an archive of ATF. We are aiming for it to be as complete as possible; for now we are coordinating https://allthefallen.moe/forum/index.ph ... er.126995/
Where would the best place be to post it?
Re: So... Now what?
Probably something should to be done with image attachments in short perspective.
I didn't try to attach the image yet, but it seems, that board engine is inlining them into the page in full sizes.
What will bring you to the situation, where user is totally blind opening the thread: content just not loading, endlessly waiting for all the images to be loaded.
That was so for me on ATF (while sometimes speed was good enough, nowadays site is almost frozen), and I met same thing on RW, especially when they've catched thousands of refugees from ATF, which started to wander around the threads.
My home board is 3dboys (which is hosted in a Tor Network for a long, and on same engine - phpBB). There's attachment system implemented, which drops ~200x200 thumbnails onto the page, instead of full images, what drastically reduces traffic upon thread watching. As they described, they're still on 100MB/s bandwidth, and still kicking, having active and lurking around thousand users, with peak sim. visitors about 50. Not the ATF scale, huh, but working fast on Tor.
Image inlining is possible with some tag tricking when creating message, but not very desirable.
I'm sure that this feature is just some extension for phpBB.
I didn't try to attach the image yet, but it seems, that board engine is inlining them into the page in full sizes.
What will bring you to the situation, where user is totally blind opening the thread: content just not loading, endlessly waiting for all the images to be loaded.
That was so for me on ATF (while sometimes speed was good enough, nowadays site is almost frozen), and I met same thing on RW, especially when they've catched thousands of refugees from ATF, which started to wander around the threads.
My home board is 3dboys (which is hosted in a Tor Network for a long, and on same engine - phpBB). There's attachment system implemented, which drops ~200x200 thumbnails onto the page, instead of full images, what drastically reduces traffic upon thread watching. As they described, they're still on 100MB/s bandwidth, and still kicking, having active and lurking around thousand users, with peak sim. visitors about 50. Not the ATF scale, huh, but working fast on Tor.
Image inlining is possible with some tag tricking when creating message, but not very desirable.
I'm sure that this feature is just some extension for phpBB.
Last edited by fibo on Sun Mar 22, 2026 2:08 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: So... Now what?
I also recommend to have a Tor entry-point and adapt posting mechanics to prepare relative links properly...
Well, as we see, EU laws are tightening around general porn access, and also ontopic content... US too.
Even if content happen to remain in legal area, there's integration difficulties: age verification, passport authentication, etc - not sure it will be easy to implement and conform to.
There were also the situations, where ontopic sites were busted without even catched on real CP posting (Lolicit, if I understand the situation correctly). And also with such issues regarding ATF, and now RW, we just can suspect some centralized engage on such boards, which just no one admits publicly.
Probably, Tor will be relatively risk-low option for coming years. So it's better to be ready for them.
If those years will ever come, of course.
And also Tor entry-point probably would act as back-up if someone will decide to suspend the domain, as happened with RW.
Well, as we see, EU laws are tightening around general porn access, and also ontopic content... US too.
Even if content happen to remain in legal area, there's integration difficulties: age verification, passport authentication, etc - not sure it will be easy to implement and conform to.
There were also the situations, where ontopic sites were busted without even catched on real CP posting (Lolicit, if I understand the situation correctly). And also with such issues regarding ATF, and now RW, we just can suspect some centralized engage on such boards, which just no one admits publicly.
Probably, Tor will be relatively risk-low option for coming years. So it's better to be ready for them.
If those years will ever come, of course.
And also Tor entry-point probably would act as back-up if someone will decide to suspend the domain, as happened with RW.